This statement says far more about how closed minded you are than I am. You assume my position is entrenched-- why? Because my posts were long and detailed? That proves nothing. I just enjoy going deeper into a topic than many others, which is also why I don't have an enormous post count.Fourth Dimension wrote:Also this is probably my last response to Formless One since by now I'm pretty sure we both have equally entrenched diametrically opposed opinions probably to each of us VERY valid. So using this thread for something that would become a sho- VIGOROUS DISCUSSION about things not relevant to the original season would not be nice
You are willing to post a thousand word rebuttal, but not willing to open a couple of urls and read what you see there? When this forum doesn't have spoiler tags and Spacebattles does?TBH, I'm not going to to go check out threads on some other random forum.
You strike me as the kind of person who doesn't actually bother understanding something before talking about it. In this case, you argue that the changes to certain characters personalities is "character assassination", but if you had been willing to read my theory posted on Spacebattles you would know that those changes were made for a reason. You don't have to like the reason, but it isn't arbitrary like character assassination usually implies. Characters get changed in adaptation all the time, for various reasons. The question that you should be asking is whether the changes suited the story that the characters appeared in. But then, I know you are working on a fan translation of the games, so you are more invested in that story than most people in the fandom are. Recognizing your own biases helps prevent you from getting stuck in arguments you can't win.
I also explain why the story has a different kind of narrative than seasons 1 and 2. Its because its based on season 3, which was indeed "Mustache Twirling Villain hatches evil plan." Only it improves on that by giving the other antagonists more room for growth during the story. Not all Nanoha stories have to be exactly like season 2, you know, so long as they are tonally and thematically consistent. If they only ever told one story over and over again, it would get pretty stale, wouldn't it?
In fact, most of your arguments strike me as confusing personal opinion with rebuttal. I say that Nanoha forbids time travel for narrative reasons, you say well, to hell with narrative consistency, I find it plausible anyway because magic can do anything, QED. Except magic can't do anything. If it could it would render a story incoherent. And once you have decided that this is something it can't do, especially if it was a major theme in one story, then you can't back out of that decision. That is objectively bad storytelling. I say that the damage simulator robs tension from the fights in Vivid, and you turn around and say "do people have to DIE for there to be tension?" What? Strawman much. The inherent tension of whether the character will win or lose is one thing, but as a simple matter of fact, much of the appeal of boxing and MMA is indeed the risk of injury that fighters take upon themselves. And by the way, when you ask why they would allow a 12 year old to fight in such a tournament, I laugh, knowing that kids in this franchise are allowed to take on far riskier endeavors if they so choose. Or did you forget the age of the protagonist in season 1?
I can't ask you to like a character. I can't ask you to like a story premise. All I ask is that you be actually honest, and not say stupid things like this:
We both saw the films, Fate only switched weapons briefly before getting Bardiche back-- and once she did she actually fared better in combat, not worse. Plus, when they take down the main villain, its with Nanoha and Fate's combo spell. In other words, you are seeing parallels to Force because you want to see parallels to Force. You haven't even considered whether the film takes any inspiration from season 3 at all. And you won't read the analysis I gave elsewhere, so you are completely unaware of what my argument is, yet you still think you can provide a rebuttal. Without clicking those links, you can't.This is inspired by AMF? PFFFFFFFFFT. When have the one antagonist formula user suffered any real damage to a pure magic user?
I have. All 102 chapters of it. And given my reading of the manga, I think you need to look up the definition of a cameo.Have you actually read the manga or are you basing your things on the anime that maybe adapts 30% of the manga's run?
