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JoeThree wrote: ↑Mon Apr 27, 2020 11:48 am
So many pseudo-intellectuals insulting a self-made Billionaire/President with such poor grammar and spelling. Gotta love it. Get woke harder, losers.
still can't come up with an answer to my question, can you?
Sorry, what was your question again?
What evidence do you have to support the theory that 45 is both self-made and a billionaire?
You're a literal idiot and I'm not debating known facts with a bad-faith debater. This is why I just insult most of you; you debate like children and don't deserve respect.
You realize you are accusing me in one breath of doing a thing that, in the same breath, you admit to doing?
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JoeThree wrote: ↑Mon Apr 27, 2020 11:48 am
So many pseudo-intellectuals insulting a self-made Billionaire/President with such poor grammar and spelling. Gotta love it. Get woke harder, losers.
still can't come up with an answer to my question, can you?
Sorry, what was your question again?
What evidence do you have to support the theory that 45 is both self-made and a billionaire?
You're a literal idiot and I'm not debating known facts with a bad-faith debater. This is why I just insult most of you; you debate like children and don't deserve respect.
You realize you are accusing me in one breath of doing a thing that, in the same breath, you admit to doing?
JoeThree wrote: ↑Fri May 01, 2020 4:23 pm
I hear what you're saying, I do, and I actually respect your efforts to send some positive vibes through the internet... it's often a very negative place. But, and this is my opinion, respect is earned, and people who hide behind semantics in an effort to virtue signal online aren't deserving of respect, especially not those who are insincere actors.
Aside from semantic, he was given a million dollars. That's something completely out of the question for a lot of people. Investment skill/prevalence aside, the moniquer of self-made is reasonably challenged.
I'd agree with that.
Indeed. Which I could just get a mill. Could budget that out and live comfy 'til the end.
We all have fantasies on what we'd do. I'd invest, I'd provide for my family, and give to charity - though charitable works I like directly, so there's no chance they could abuse it or something. Not for a charitable deduction. We need more love and kindness in the world, and those with access to greater resources are not doing that ATM.
Yeah, buy up the lease on a modest apartment in a major city, furnish it, give $100 (total, spread around) a month to folks on Patreon, give a few thousand to PBS, put half of it into stable stocks (Coke, Microsoft, Disney, etc.) and just leave the rest in savings until I need it. Maybe keep $5k in bullion on hand, just in case...
BridgeConsoleMasher wrote: ↑Sat May 02, 2020 3:17 am
Trump was 18 in like 1965. You should probably add another 0 and a half.
edit: It was about 8.20x, so like $8.2 million of today's money
The loan was in 75 and was about 60 million dollars. This works out to about 140 million dollars in modernish money.
https://www.cnbc.com/2018/10/02/trumps-small-loan-from-his-father-was-more-like-60point7-million-nyt.html
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Yeah, there's no such thing as a self made billionaire. Look back into any billionaire's past and you'll find several strokes of astronomical luck, a "start up loan" that could buy a small country and two state senators, and/or old money so old it has to be measured in geological strata.
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Fuzzy Necromancer wrote: ↑Sat May 02, 2020 6:31 am
Yeah, there's no such thing as a self made billionaire. Look back into any billionaire's past and you'll find several strokes of astronomical luck, a "start up loan" that could buy a small country and two state senators, and/or old money so old it has to be measured in geological strata.
Ah, the Obama approach: "You didn't make that". The same line of thinking that has lead so many socialist nations to produce such great products and innovations as...
Fuzzy Necromancer wrote: ↑Sat May 02, 2020 6:31 am
Yeah, there's no such thing as a self made billionaire. Look back into any billionaire's past and you'll find several strokes of astronomical luck, a "start up loan" that could buy a small country and two state senators, and/or old money so old it has to be measured in geological strata.
Ah, the Obama approach: "You didn't make that". The same line of thinking that has lead so many socialist nations to produce such great products and innovations as...
Well assuming we're still running on "europe is socialist" then quite a few: https://qz.com/669798/these-top-twelve-inventions-could-one-day-change-the-world/
In fact as immigration is falling in America, America is drifting backwards. Used to be it got a huge portion of the world's talent, but the US is no longer seen as the place to be (at least for the middle class, who are the ones who drive scientific progress).
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Fuzzy Necromancer wrote: ↑Sat May 02, 2020 6:31 am
Yeah, there's no such thing as a self made billionaire. Look back into any billionaire's past and you'll find several strokes of astronomical luck, a "start up loan" that could buy a small country and two state senators, and/or old money so old it has to be measured in geological strata.
Ah, the Obama approach: "You didn't make that". The same line of thinking that has lead so many socialist nations to produce such great products and innovations as...
Well assuming we're still running on "europe is socialist" then quite a few: https://qz.com/669798/these-top-twelve-inventions-could-one-day-change-the-world/
In fact as immigration is falling in America, America is drifting backwards. Used to be it got a huge portion of the world's talent, but the US is no longer seen as the place to be (at least for the middle class, who are the ones who drive scientific progress).
Who said Europe was Socialist? The same nations Bernie Sanders has named as prized examples of Socialism have come out and said that they were Socialist in the 70's, it tanked their economy, and now they're more Capitalist than ever.
