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Well, with the Inhumans they didn't have a MLK or a Malcolm X arch-type like they did with the mutants. It was obvious that Professor X and Magneto were they type of leaders for the mutants, and that is why mutants became a popular storyline. They never established anything like that with the Inhumans and I think their story arch suffered from it.
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Those are closely related issues. As xenophobia is often a pretext for denying civil rights.
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The MCU has a problem that it's hard to tell if they are actually connected to each other sometimes. Luke Cage, for instance, should have been picked up and arrested by SHIELD or the ATCU and put in goo for all the showboating he did in his first season. Coulson, for some reason, keeps his being alive secret from the Avengers. Even though, by now, he's been on the news four or five times and someone should have noticed and pointed it out to Steve or Tony.

That aside, my favorite series of the MCU is Captain America. Steve is the best character, IMO, and the stories told seem the best executed.
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lsgreg wrote:Well, with the Inhumans they didn't have a MLK or a Malcolm X arch-type like they did with the mutants. It was obvious that Professor X and Magneto were they type of leaders for the mutants, and that is why mutants became a popular storyline. They never established anything like that with the Inhumans and I think their story arch suffered from it.
The inhumans are sorta like elves in fantasy setting
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Redem wrote:
lsgreg wrote:Well, with the Inhumans they didn't have a MLK or a Malcolm X arch-type like they did with the mutants. It was obvious that Professor X and Magneto were they type of leaders for the mutants, and that is why mutants became a popular storyline. They never established anything like that with the Inhumans and I think their story arch suffered from it.
The inhumans are sorta like elves in fantasy setting


Except exposure to a chemical mist could kill you or activate a rare latent Elf gene in humans and then the Elves think you beyond to their king and wants you to live in their secret city.
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Robovski wrote: Except exposure to a chemical mist could kill you or activate a rare latent Elf gene in humans and then the Elves think you beyond to their king and wants you to live in their secret city.
I guess I mostly still picture them pre-"We gonna over use them cause Fox has the mutants movie rights"
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So last Friday the first two episodes of inhumans were released at some Imax theaters and boy are the reviews harsh to put it mildly. Granted they only saw the first two episodes so it could get better as it goes along. But it could also get worse.

For now I'm going to wait and see. If it looks like the writing gets better and there's a confirmed season two I might start watching it.
If not then well I'll continue to be slightly bitter over the loss of Agent Carter because that was a good show.
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Robovski wrote:
Redem wrote:
lsgreg wrote:Well, with the Inhumans they didn't have a MLK or a Malcolm X arch-type like they did with the mutants. It was obvious that Professor X and Magneto were they type of leaders for the mutants, and that is why mutants became a popular storyline. They never established anything like that with the Inhumans and I think their story arch suffered from it.
The inhumans are sorta like elves in fantasy setting


Except exposure to a chemical mist could kill you or activate a rare latent Elf gene in humans and then the Elves think you beyond to their king and wants you to live in their secret city.

I always thought that in the comics, the Terrigene Mist is harmless to regular humans and that only on AoS it's dangerous (and I think that even they haven't been very consistent with it either).
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I do remember an old comic where Quicksilver tried the Terrigene Mist on his daughter who wasn't a mutant or Inhuman (John Byrne's Thing Comic from the 80s). Lockjaw and the Thing convince him to not use it and let her grow up normal. I don't know if that is still canon, but I doubt anything from the 80s is still canon.
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lsgreg wrote:I do remember an old comic where Quicksilver tried the Terrigene Mist on his daughter who wasn't a mutant or Inhuman (John Byrne's Thing Comic from the 80s). Lockjaw and the Thing convince him to not use it and let her grow up normal. I don't know if that is still canon, but I doubt anything from the 80s is still canon.
Well, currently there is this Terrigene Mist cloud thing that is going around the world (this is a comic after all) and it's killing all the mutants and turning all NuHumans into well, NuHumans. As with Quicksilver's daughter, I have no idea where that stands.

Overall, though, in the comics, they are trying to replace the Mutants with Inhumans/NuHumans and the rumor is because of Marvel can't get a deal with FOX over the rights of the X-Men/Mutants. Plus, Johnathan Hickman basically confirmed that Marvel stopped printing the Fastinsic Four comics because of what was going on with FOX and their Live-Action Rights.
BY EVAN CAMPBELL The Fantastic Four's comics ended because of Marvel's frustrations with 20th Century Fox over film rights, according to a former writer for the series.

Speaking with Newsarama, Jonathan Hickman — who's also written for Marvel's Avengers and Secret Wars — opened up about why the Fantastic Four comics ended back in 2015.

"I think it’s pretty common knowledge at this point that Marvel isn’t publishing Fantastic Four because of their disagreement with Fox," he said. "While it bums me out, I completely understand because, well, it isn’t like they’re not acting out of cause. Fox needs to do a better job there."
http://www.ign.com/articles/2017/08/07/ ... ox-dispute
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