UK passing staunch gender bathroom law

[Captain Crimson]

You say that social pressure to not transition is down as you call vast amounts of trans people fakes for not transitioning to circumstances. Not only that but Republicans demonstrably do no not support trans people as they are currently introducing vast swaths of legislation to push trans people out of public life.

If they're online, yeah, sorry, I'm gonna call a spade as I see it. Because you can't trust anything online. And keyboard warriors get so upset woke isn't taking off in the rest of the country that they wind up pushing even harder for it in entertainment through social media, generating so much noise the creatives and executives bow to the pressure, then blame everything and anyone under the sun for why it tanked. Gotta love the way self-professed leftists smother artistic expression and freedom of speech. It is ruining the experience for so many people who don't want hamfisted topical politics in our stories.

That's the legislators, not real people. They're too bought and paid for to actually represent the little guy. Same as all the numb nuts online. Could be a real idiot. Or it could be a bot account. They may have greater power than us, but they prove over and over they don't have any idea what's going on and nobody up there's in charge. I was more so basing it off Mr. Jenner transitioning into Ms. Jenner. Give her credit, actually walked the talk. I sincerely doubt many of those claiming to be trans in today's age will have transitioned in 20 years. What else could you call that but trying to be trendy? This is what children brought up with participation trophies are doing now. If they finally get the mental help they need, do we somehow insist they've been brainwashed to think like the collective?

Let me ask you, what right do we have to interfere in other people's business? Short of actual physical abuse, this is a private matter in family and business. I had defended Disney's firing of Ms. Carano by observing a business has every right to decide not to associate with employees that step out of line. I stand by that. And yes, certain GOP officials have called trans people slurs like "farm animals" and that's indefensible, but they just do this stupid s*** for attention. Fighting for more egalitarian legislation, that's one thing. But when a loud screaming mob online can get changes made in business and government, that's a concern. And it has become a big concern in recent years because the net is not RL. Look at that Latino man who was fired for being a "white supremacist."

There is a super fucking easy answer, let people self identify as trans as was suggested by Magnus Hirschfeld back in the 1930s.

Identity is not a concrete issue and the internet wasn't around in the '30s. The web just gives a new level of unreality to everything we see and hear. It's why I don't hang around the messageboard all the time. People have to unplug and disconnect at some point, or it becomes another form of compulsory vice and addiction. There's already too much of those because we have a hard time dealing with the world.

What IS it that makes us human, intellectually speaking, in terms of our consciousness, our will, our ego, our memories and psyche? No one can answer that. There is no definitive scientific consensus. And there probably never will be. That said, if someone claimed they identified as a cloud, should we accept that? If they feel a spiritual/emotional connection to clouds, that's good, go for that. But your identity will never be a cloud, bottom line.

There is an inherent danger in trying to enact great sweeping social changes based on somebody's word without tangible, substantive evidence to reinforce their claims that you lefties just seem to be ignoring. And the opposition is not TRANSPHOBIC for this. Insulting people doesn't win you support. I mean, we've seen this with MeToo as well. I'd like greater convictions and punishment against sex abusers, I would. Most people do. But how the H are we just supposed to take somebody at their word online? And the sticky part about this (pun not intended!) is that people's behavior are never rational, so simply going to court and trying to present total logic in order to lead to a conclusion on whether or not somebody is guilty one of the most personal crimes possible is difficult. "He said, she said" is practically impossible to navigate around except to whatever political tribe you belong to.

I'd like to be able to take people at their word. I would. But humanity doesn't work like that and people can rationalize and lie even to themselves and think they're telling a total truth when it's a complete, bald-faced lie. How do you overcome that in the Internet Age?

Your not a real woman you have to use the freak bathrooms is very exclusionary. Additionally it will be used to attack cis woman that don't conform to traditional beauty standards, especially minority women.

Any pervert under the sun could waltz in claiming to be this or that gender for a peep.

I've always felt activists who eviscerate beautiful women in today's age as part of some oppressive patriarchal system are just jealous they don't look that good. Or conversely, for het men, that they don't have women that hot in their lives. I know that a lot of standards of beauty are pushed by the cosmetics companies, their ideal in order to move product, but at the same time, you're never gonna find much outside the traditional approach even if you remove them.

People are entitled to their own preferences, and nowadays if you don't wanna date someone overweight you are accused of fat shaming. One example. And let me say that I do sincerely wish all people on earth find that partner. But most people don't. Another example: a large, bodybuilder woman. Let me say that while I can't speak for most men, a lot of men wouldn't be interested in that woman as a partner. We gonna shame him too? We gonna claim he's brainwashed? How much is free will and how much is the way our environment shapes and influences us? Can you answer that?

SJWs and the leftists are the new puritans and segregationists because you do not allow anything that deviates from your own norms, ironically, while the GOP actually looks to be improving their standing in that regard. Pardon me if I'm not particularly sympathetic to woke talking points after all the IPs Hollywood has torched in the name of PC diversity and blue checkmarks.

Logical if people have to use the bathroom associated with their assigned sex at birth then a cis man could claim to be a trans man and do exactly the same thing.

So what do you suggest? Again, there are no easy answers because you could make arguments for both perspectives, and yet it just ensures there's gonna be equal pushback from the opposition. You know what? There's nothing wrong with being different. Having trans bathrooms isn't bad if we could just accept our differences are interesting, but ultimately don't matter. Nowadays people seem to hate all kind of differences that don't conform to a neat little uniform package.

I mean that is the logical end result of gate keeping who and who cannot use public restrooms.

I have never claimed to be part of the LGBT community. How the H am I gatekeeping?

[Fuzzy Necromancer]

You make a good impassioned speech. And yet, I don't have a daughter, but i have a young niece. And I wouldn't want her anywhere near a fully equipped and fully grown man in a toilet or a changing room. The latter especially; and you can call me every slur you want, i'm not letting anyone with his dick out near her no matter what the excuse is because I do not know whether he is legitimately a transperson or some fucking pervert claiming to be one. Why do you think we even have separate toilets and changing rooms for anyway?

Most people in Britain back Boris Johnson on this. How do I know this? Because we had a local election last week and Boris increased his majority in the House of Commons whilst Labour - the party of identity politics - is now so far down in the polls many are wondering if it is even possible to get the Tories out of power this decade.

I'll say this too: despite what you may think of me or what it may sound like, I feel sorry for transpeople. To look into a mirror and see a stranger stare back at you is... wow. It must be horrific. I cannot imagine it and I glad I do not have to go through it. But. You. Are. Not. The. Only. Ones. With. Problems. Cis-women have problems too; most of which tend to originate from piece of shit men who should have had their dicks cut off before puberty before they learned to use them as weapons. If it wasn't for them then maybe this would not be such a controversial issue.

100% on point. If they're so fragile they are special needs, then what hope do they have in society? Should they not be put into a special-needs facility at the behest of their guardian or voluntarily? Because I've said before, we need thicker skin as a society. And yes, trans people have it rough, very horrible - to face that kinda gender crisis, you're right. I can't conceive of it. They need help. Which is why transtrenders are just so insidious. Claiming to be trans as a way to fit in - because again, we are not gonna have a mass sex-change transition in the next two decades. I'd guarantee that.

But as you noted, we all deal with s***. And we all have to endure, or we sink. Like a fish in the sea. Identity politics is the path to nowhere unless you're dealing with a rabid buffoon like Mr. Trump was.

The elephant in the room is that if you look into the stats, sex change reversal surgery is far more common than people like to admit. Problem is of course is that they can't, not really. Hormone blockers are one thing, replacing an appendage you've chopped off is another.

The saddest and most common story I have read tends to come from tomboys who as kids used to chop their hair short and wear trousers - and therefore MUST have been trans according to everyone around her and thus ended up in their opinion being brainwashed. Same for boys who like to play with dolls.

There is pressure among kids who do not fit into a box to take blockers now. Don't take it from me, take it from them.

That's gender essentialism. Trans people are the first to speak out against that kind of thing, and more trans acceptance means less procrustean gender prescriptions.

[Fuzzy Necromancer]

You make a good impassioned speech. And yet, I don't have a daughter, but i have a young niece. And I wouldn't want her anywhere near a fully equipped and fully grown man in a toilet or a changing room. The latter especially; and you can call me every slur you want, i'm not letting anyone with his dick out near her no matter what the excuse is because I do not know whether he is legitimately a transperson or some fucking pervert claiming to be one. Why do you think we even have separate toilets and changing rooms for anyway?

And that's what the transphobes are counting on. They can leverage your genuine concern for your niece to persecute trans people who are also just trying to piss. If they said "we want trans people to get beaten up and outed and murdered", then they would have more difficult getting their support.

Now let's take away the shadowy specter of the big man who says "Oh, I'm just transgender," because we haven't seen evidence that he exists. Let's deal with the real.

There are grown men who will go in there to "check" for trans women, or to "prove" how dangerous it is. They've been doing that.

There are women with short hair who get harassed when they try to pee.

Now imagine a little trans girl, who is dressing and presenting as her gender because she needs to do that for months in order for the psychiatrist to give her those hormones that will allow her to shower without shuddering and be less likely to get the shit beat out of her for looking weird. That girl also has to pee. That girl may be developing kidney problems from holding it too long. These laws would force the little trans girl, who weighs 80 pounds soaking wet, and has braces, and a Sailor Moon backpack, to go pee in the restroom with all the grown men in it.

Please extend that little girl the same concern that you feel for you niece.

Clearspira, I'm asking you again to read and engage with this. You're arguing in good faith and not going on tangental rants. I want you to understand.

[Fuzzy Necromancer]

So your argument boil down to "How dare this minority group try to get some attention, we need to have nothing more than white cis hetero and nothing else ever.' Even if it is niche isn't diversity the spice of life, or are you the bland man in Earth.

It boils down to corporate liars trying to claim they're marketing outside the niche and insulting anyone outside that niche. They wanna market to a minority group, go ahead, knock themselves out, but then they have to insult anyone who doesn't like it.

Corporate social justice is dishonest nomenclature. It's just deflection to get people not to look too closely at their bank accounts.

Or maybe with more people able to speak people can now talk with friends to back them up instead of whoever their stuck with in real life.

How does name-dropping identity politics make a difference?

"I'm a black person!" "I'm a lesbian!" "I'm blind!" Yeah, that's cringe AF. Look at something such as DS9, which while never a ratings juggernaut, still nevertheless is highly regarded even today.

Now look at something recent and more topical like Batwoman. Yeah, the ratings are in the toilet and there's no way that can hold up forever. It's gonna have no cultural staying power.

How do you play a color? How do you play an identity? How do you write that way? Bottom line is you can't.

Have you ever had a mate who has just has a kid and now they cannot stop talking about their baby every single time you meet them no matter how uninterested a face you put on? That is what following many LGBT creators on Youtube and Twitter is like nowadays. What many people mistake for bigotry is often more a case of just being fucking bored with monotonous content.

See, that's what straight people do, a lot. You don't notice it because straightness and cisness are ubiquitous and normalized. Fish don't notice they're in water.

Have you seen baby clothes? Have you seen sexy ads for anything? Have you seen the death and destruction wrought by gender reveal parties?

[Captain Crimson]

Heterosexuality predates the rise of agriculture. Why? Because it's how the species thrives.

And I'm not claiming gay or bisexuals are unnatural. Some male animals in nature only get a chance once a year (ouch), so they plow their mates. Kind of a "friends with fringe benefits" angle.

But I am stating that it perpetuates the species, thus why heterosexuality is the norm and always will be. The most you can claim is experimentation will increase, which I am all in favor of.

LGBT need greater opportunity for that. That's what I want that they can't give us. Equal greater opportunities for ALL. Not social equity.

[Draco Dracul]

You say that social pressure to not transition is down as you call vast amounts of trans people fakes for not transitioning to circumstances. Not only that but Republicans demonstrably do no not support trans people as they are currently introducing vast swaths of legislation to push trans people out of public life.

If they're online, yeah, sorry, I'm gonna call a spade as I see it. Because you can't trust anything online. And keyboard warriors get so upset woke isn't taking off in the rest of the country that they wind up pushing even harder for it in entertainment through social media, generating so much noise the creatives and executives bow to the pressure, then blame everything and anyone under the sun for why it tanked. Gotta love the way self-professed leftists smother artistic expression and freedom of speech. It is ruining the experience for so many people who don't want hamfisted topical politics in our stories.

A) Trans people are more likely to come out online before they do IRL because people have immense pressures in real life to not be trans.
B) Most woke media comes from artists working in the industry that want to push for representation often because they are those things.
C) Executives have been caving because they've crunched the numbers and thier is going to be more money in wholeness than in not doing that. You can actually see this in how film, especially big budget film is less open to queerness than TV as film has to be made with the Chinese market in mind while TV does not.

That's the legislators, not real people. They're too bought and paid for to actually represent the little guy. Same as all the numb nuts online. Could be a real idiot. Or it could be a bot account. They may have greater power than us, but they prove over and over they don't have any idea what's going on and nobody up there's in charge. I was more so basing it off Mr. Jenner transitioning into Ms. Jenner. Give her credit, actually walked the talk. I sincerely doubt many of those claiming to be trans in today's age will have transitioned in 20 years. What else could you call that but trying to be trendy? This is what children brought up with participation trophies are doing now. If they finally get the mental help they need, do we somehow insist they've been brainwashed to think like the collective?

There are no business interests in anti trans bills. Businesses have been pushing against them because they stand to lose money. The legislatures are passing these laws because thier members are bigots and they want to appeal to their bigoted base.

Let me ask you, what right do we have to interfere in other people's business? Short of actual physical abuse, this is a private matter in family and business. I had defended Disney's firing of Ms. Carano by observing a business has every right to decide not to associate with employees that step out of line. I stand by that. And yes, certain GOP officials have called trans people slurs like "farm animals" and that's indefensible, but they just do this stupid s*** for attention. Fighting for more egalitarian legislation, that's one thing. But when a loud screaming mob online can get changes made in business and government, that's a concern. And it has become a big concern in recent years because the net is not RL. Look at that Latino man who was fired for being a "white supremacist."

It is the conservatives and the anti trans people that are getting in people's personal business in this case.

There is a super fucking easy answer, let people self identify as trans as was suggested by Magnus Hirschfeld back in the 1930s.

Identity is not a concrete issue and the internet wasn't around in the '30s. The web just gives a new level of unreality to everything we see and hear. It's why I don't hang around the messageboard all the time. People have to unplug and disconnect at some point, or it becomes another form of compulsory vice and addiction. There's already too much of those because we have a hard time dealing with the world.

What IS it that makes us human, intellectually speaking, in terms of our consciousness, our will, our ego, our memories and psyche? No one can answer that. There is no definitive scientific consensus. And there probably never will be. That said, if someone claimed they identified as a cloud, should we accept that? If they feel a spiritual/emotional connection to clouds, that's good, go for that. But your identity will never be a cloud, bottom line.

A) I fail to see how the internet makes identity less valid now than it was then.
B) I see you know the one transphobic joke gl for ypu.

There is an inherent danger in trying to enact great sweeping social changes based on somebody's word without tangible, substantive evidence to reinforce their claims that you lefties just seem to be ignoring. And the opposition is not TRANSPHOBIC for this. Insulting people doesn't win you support. I mean, we've seen this with MeToo as well. I'd like greater convictions and punishment against sex abusers, I would. Most people do. But how the H are we just supposed to take somebody at their word online? And the sticky part about this (pun not intended!) is that people's behavior are never rational, so simply going to court and trying to present total logic in order to lead to a conclusion on whether or not somebody is guilty one of the most personal crimes possible is difficult. "He said, she said" is practically impossible to navigate around except to whatever political tribe you belong to.

I fail to see how treating people with basic dignity and respect is a grand sweeping change or how refusing to do so because someone is trans is anything other than transphobic. I think most people, even a lot of trans people that don't know they are trans yet, are transphobic, but also that most people will try to stop being transphobic when it's pointed out to them.

I'd like to be able to take people at their word. I would. But humanity doesn't work like that and people can rationalize and lie even to themselves and think they're telling a total truth when it's a complete, bald-faced lie. How do you overcome that in the Internet Age?

If someone says they are trans online and they are not what is lost by humoring them?

Your not a real woman you have to use the freak bathrooms is very exclusionary. Additionally it will be used to attack cis woman that don't conform to traditional beauty standards, especially minority women.

Any pervert under the sun could waltz in claiming to be this or that gender for a peep.

And they can do that regardless of whether trans people are allowed to use public restrooms. It's a door nor a magic force field.

I've always felt activists who eviscerate beautiful women in today's age as part of some oppressive patriarchal system are just jealous they don't look that good. Or conversely, for het men, that they don't have women that hot in their lives. I know that a lot of standards of beauty are pushed by the cosmetics companies, their ideal in order to move product, but at the same time, you're never gonna find much outside the traditional approach even if you remove them.

People are entitled to their own preferences, and nowadays if you don't wanna date someone overweight you are accused of fat shaming. One example. And let me say that I do sincerely wish all people on earth find that partner. But most people don't. Another example: a large, bodybuilder woman. Let me say that while I can't speak for most men, a lot of men wouldn't be interested in that woman as a partner. We gonna shame him too? We gonna claim he's brainwashed? How much is free will and how much is the way our environment shapes and influences us? Can you answer that?

My dude if you don't want to date trans women they don't want to date you either.

SJWs and the leftists are the new puritans and segregationists because you do not allow anything that deviates from your own norms, ironically, while the GOP actually looks to be improving their standing in that regard. Pardon me if I'm not particularly sympathetic to woke talking points after all the IPs Hollywood has torched in the name of PC diversity and blue checkmarks.

The GOP censored one of thier own Congresswomen for not bowing down before trump six months after he lost the election. You are delusional.

Logical if people have to use the bathroom associated with their assigned sex at birth then a cis man could claim to be a trans man and do exactly the same thing.

So what do you suggest? Again, there are no easy answers because you could make arguments for both perspectives, and yet it just ensures there's gonna be equal pushback from the opposition. You know what? There's nothing wrong with being different. Having trans bathrooms isn't bad if we could just accept our differences are interesting, but ultimately don't matter. Nowadays people seem to hate all kind of differences that don't conform to a neat little uniform package.

Unisex bathrooms and stall design that goes to the floor. Boom no one can peep and no one gives anyone funny looks for which bathroom they go to.

I mean that is the logical end result of gate keeping who and who cannot use public restrooms.

I have never claimed to be part of the LGBT community. How the H am I gatekeeping?

You don't need to be a member of a community to gatekeep it. In fact there has been a long history of cis people gatekeeping who is and isn't really trans something that you are literally doing in this thread.

[Fuzzy Necromancer]

Heterosexuality predates the rise of agriculture. Why? Because it's how the species thrives.

And I'm not claiming gay or bisexuals are unnatural. Some male animals in nature only get a chance once a year (ouch), so they plow their mates. Kind of a "friends with fringe benefits" angle.

But I am stating that it perpetuates the species, thus why heterosexuality is the norm and always will be. The most you can claim is experimentation will increase, which I am all in favor of.

LGBT need greater opportunity for that. That's what I want that they can't give us. Equal greater opportunities for ALL. Not social equity.

Yikes.

[McAvoy]

Heterosexuality predates the rise of agriculture. Why? Because it's how the species thrives.

And I'm not claiming gay or bisexuals are unnatural. Some male animals in nature only get a chance once a year (ouch), so they plow their mates. Kind of a "friends with fringe benefits" angle.

But I am stating that it perpetuates the species, thus why heterosexuality is the norm and always will be. The most you can claim is experimentation will increase, which I am all in favor of.

LGBT need greater opportunity for that. That's what I want that they can't give us. Equal greater opportunities for ALL. Not social equity.

Yikes.

Yeah.

Homosexuality is widely observed in nature. It's as natural and normal as heterosexuality.

[Captain Crimson]

A) Trans people are more likely to come out online before they do IRL because people have immense pressures in real life to not be trans.
B) Most woke media comes from artists working in the industry that want to push for representation often because they are those things.
C) Executives have been caving because they've crunched the numbers and thier is going to be more money in wholeness than in not doing that. You can actually see this in how film, especially big budget film is less open to queerness than TV as film has to be made with the Chinese market in mind while TV does not.

A) That is a bad move because the internet is not RL. Even if you're going to use the net, then call someone. Share screens. Listen to their voice. That adds more of the human element 90% of the agenda-driven political net removes. And as a prelude to RL choices. I don't want to minimize the judgment issues present here, but then we all face such judgments in our lives as if our peers are the holy arbiter of right and wrong, but if they are so sensitive that have thin skinner than air, how can they ever expect to have a happy life? I won't patronize them by treating them as a danged special case. Online trans communities are fine, those involved in activism for fandom communities are not, because those inevitably turn to a demand for representation, and I said it before, you cannot prove what is taking place in somebody's mind and identity issues are hard to pin down to a scientific conclusion past our own biases. So representation shouldn't matter, but character and plot, unless it is for that deliberate niche audience, like TOS was in the '60s.
B) Exactly what I said above. And woke is not mainstream because trans is not mainstream, and if there's zero passion from the creatives and artists and writers, then it explains so much of these really bad decisions for major IPs. They want to go back to the past and change it, and they're mandating decisions many creatives can't handle or adapt to well. Do you support business making mandates for greater diversity? Barring the LGBT, I think we already had that in the '90s. And yet they still like to act as if nerds are such bigots, they're "toxic fans" that need to go away because we're smarter than they like to admit and call them out on their BS. Political art is one thing. Political correctness has no place in art. The only truly positive nerd fandoms I find anymore are those with anime.
C) I feel Japan has handled LGBT themes very well, because while it is about making money, it's also not about being hamfisted and trapped in a particular time period, or hiring people for biased reasons like to hit a blue checkmark. It's why the demands for PC in anime are being run up right up against a giant, brick wall. Japan ain't having that. I mean, take something like ST. I did not care that Seven was bisexual. I do, however, think that shoving that in 20 years later is too little, too late. Seven should have experimented on VOY that way, due to being out of step with humanity. You're asking fans to take a huge leap on offscreen events, and VOY was never good with continuity or passion or liberal ideology that way in the first place. What would work this way is a small animated one-shot to actually show this. I'd be happy with that. But they don't do that.

There are no business interests in anti trans bills. Businesses have been pushing against them because they stand to lose money. The legislatures are passing these laws because thier members are bigots and they want to appeal to their bigoted base.

They're losing money by trying to cater to transtenders on Twitter and they wind up stripping down the IP so that most fans just walk away, even the LGBT they were trying to pander to. Mr. Trump's trans ban on the military, that I think is a more clear-cut case because it's stupid. You're not there to spout identity politics, but to fight. And to obey the military hierarchy. But for businesses, they're not pushing against them, they're throwing in as much PC checklisted themes they are able to for any IP. And they never stop to hit you over the head with how bigoted the past AND present is. When does it stop? Like canceling Dr. Seuss books. They are doing that to cater to PC SJW puritans.

It is the conservatives and the anti trans people that are getting in people's personal business in this case.

In what respect? Somebody claims to be trans, I don't care. They want representation in fandom, I don't care. But the business is favoring them, one side over the other, and so drive away people in the middle. And it's led to some truly awful writing like Terminator: Dark Fate. But they just call those who criticize the stupid buff woman (I forgot her name) as a "[insert istaphobe here]", whether a transphobe or misogynist, so there's no chance for nuance and positive discussion. The fandom remains trapped between two zealot camps co-opting the narrative for their own uses. People are too quick to label one another these days and insult them and slander them, belittle and name-call, and it's not just trans. Being the most vulnerable does them no favors when the executives write horrible stories and accuse the detractors of being bigots, since that just brings MORE hate to them. Hate, hate, hate, when does it end?

Don't tell me there's not hate when others on this very messageboard would very much celebrate horrible things. And you know what? It's the right of forum posters to express those sentiments. But we should expect more from the big movers and shakers in government and industry.

A) I fail to see how the internet makes identity less valid now than it was then.
B) I see you know the one transphobic joke gl for ypu.

A) The internet liberates and divides. And because it's all chemical processes we still haven't pinned down to a set of variables and math equation. Trans problems are identity issues and that's something those locked into the limited organic perspective can't prove to outsiders due to the solipsism issue.
B) What are you on about? If someone says they identify as a cloud, I'll treat them as anyone else, I'll try to be nice, but I'm not gonna take them seriously. If a man identifies as a woman, I say, maybe you should transition. If they said they didn't feel comfortable with that, I shrug. You do you. But if they want my advice, I'd prefer listing pros and cons and let them come to a conclusion.

I fail to see how treating people with basic dignity and respect is a grand sweeping change or how refusing to do so because someone is trans is anything other than transphobic. I think most people, even a lot of trans people that don't know they are trans yet, are transphobic, but also that most people will try to stop being transphobic when it's pointed out to them.

I'd said before, if they are this fragile, then maybe they should be in special-needs care. Not to be cruel, but we all deal with s*** and don't get this much spotlight put on us by business and government, and you know what? As I stated, the fuels backlash to unpopular decisions.

I think most people are more decent than you know, but the illusion of modern society the media elite and political heads fuel doesn't demonstrate this. I literally have no reason not to consider trans less human at all.

If someone says they are trans online and they are not what is lost by humoring them?

Nothing in private circles, very bad when it comes to fandom discussions and consumer feedback, because the executives are only going to be listening in one direction, not the other.

And they can do that regardless of whether trans people are allowed to use public restrooms. It's a door nor a magic force field.

Hence why there's no easy answers.

My dude if you don't want to date trans women they don't want to date you either.

I'm willing to give anyone a chance. I'm, however, stating that when you try to go against the grain of traditional feminine beauty that is hardwired into our genetic code, you get something like Abbyzilla from TLOUII. Slim upper torso, wide hips is how we're programmed to examine our mates, as males, and that will never change. It's a double standard, sure, but there's always going to be one of those. I say embrace it and let it only go so far. Never be afraid to stand up for what you believe in.

The GOP censored one of thier own Congresswomen for not bowing down before trump six months after he lost the election. You are delusional.

Refer to Disney's affinity groups.

Unisex bathrooms and stall design that goes to the floor. Boom no one can peep and no one gives anyone funny looks for which bathroom they go to.

As I've said before, in the end, what I'd prefer is more funding for bathrooms and benches. There's really never enough in my city. If they go with that, then that's on the city. I just won't take one side or the other.

You don't need to be a member of a community to gatekeep it. In fact there has been a long history of cis people gatekeeping who is and isn't really trans something that you are literally doing in this thread.

I'm doing it because I'm objecting to the Twitter nuts who are the only people the businesses care about and pander to and so ruin great works of art.

[Captain Crimson]

Heterosexuality predates the rise of agriculture. Why? Because it's how the species thrives.

And I'm not claiming gay or bisexuals are unnatural. Some male animals in nature only get a chance once a year (ouch), so they plow their mates. Kind of a "friends with fringe benefits" angle.

But I am stating that it perpetuates the species, thus why heterosexuality is the norm and always will be. The most you can claim is experimentation will increase, which I am all in favor of.

LGBT need greater opportunity for that. That's what I want that they can't give us. Equal greater opportunities for ALL. Not social equity.

Yikes.

Yeah.

Homosexuality is widely observed in nature. It's as natural and normal as heterosexuality.

Yeah, they are. Where did you get the impression I said otherwise? Apologies if I'm putting words in your mouth. Because I was preempting anyone who may try to slander me by claiming I'm homophobic, when it is very natural.