Why are you so determined to minimize the threat post by white nationalists terrorist groups?clearspira wrote: ↑Mon Jan 03, 2022 5:07 pm I mean, yeah, that is pretty bad. But unpopular question time: Can you name a single crime that the KKK have committed recently? As in, are they actually a threat anymore or are they just a name?
If not then I ask you, what is the actual difference in 2022 between the KKK and the millions of on-line racists who congregate on social media?
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I'm not doing that at all. I'm asking whether the great bogeyman that is the KKK is inherently worse than the radicalisation that happens on social media because from a lot of my Google searches it seems really quite difficult to attribute much to them anymore. I bet you than Facebook and Youtube produces more racist violence than the KKK has in the last decade. They're niche on the grand scale of things; jokers in white bedsheets.Fuzzy Necromancer wrote: ↑Fri Jan 07, 2022 6:10 amWhy are you so determined to minimize the threat post by white nationalists terrorist groups?clearspira wrote: ↑Mon Jan 03, 2022 5:07 pm I mean, yeah, that is pretty bad. But unpopular question time: Can you name a single crime that the KKK have committed recently? As in, are they actually a threat anymore or are they just a name?
If not then I ask you, what is the actual difference in 2022 between the KKK and the millions of on-line racists who congregate on social media?
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The crime of being white.clearspira wrote: ↑Mon Jan 03, 2022 5:07 pm I mean, yeah, that is pretty bad. But unpopular question time: Can you name a single crime that the KKK have committed recently? As in, are they actually a threat anymore or are they just a name?
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Can you be more specific? It feels like you're alluding to general violence typical of today's standards, which is a pretty high bar considering we were dealing with mass shootings, and still are I think.clearspira wrote: ↑Fri Jan 07, 2022 11:58 amI'm not doing that at all. I'm asking whether the great bogeyman that is the KKK is inherently worse than the radicalisation that happens on social media because from a lot of my Google searches it seems really quite difficult to attribute much to them anymore. I bet you than Facebook and Youtube produces more racist violence than the KKK has in the last decade. They're niche on the grand scale of things; jokers in white bedsheets.Fuzzy Necromancer wrote: ↑Fri Jan 07, 2022 6:10 amWhy are you so determined to minimize the threat post by white nationalists terrorist groups?clearspira wrote: ↑Mon Jan 03, 2022 5:07 pm I mean, yeah, that is pretty bad. But unpopular question time: Can you name a single crime that the KKK have committed recently? As in, are they actually a threat anymore or are they just a name?
If not then I ask you, what is the actual difference in 2022 between the KKK and the millions of on-line racists who congregate on social media?
But still, as we're discussing with DBF, these fall more under anecdotal accounts in an area of society lacking oversight, while the group in question is more of a concern for one; their principal, historical, and explicit goals, and two; their organized efforts in doing so. Violence happens to be an escalated factor, that levies them to the ranks of a nationally recognized terrorist group what have you.
So I'm not sure what it is you're comparing "that" to.
..What mirror universe?
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what the fuck dudejadenova wrote: ↑Sat Jan 08, 2022 4:05 pmThe crime of being white.clearspira wrote: ↑Mon Jan 03, 2022 5:07 pm I mean, yeah, that is pretty bad. But unpopular question time: Can you name a single crime that the KKK have committed recently? As in, are they actually a threat anymore or are they just a name?
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Yes, you are. You dismiss, downplay, and handwave whenever there's a group with explicit white nationalist agendas at work. You did it with the terrorist coup attempt on January 6th and you're doing it with the KKK.clearspira wrote: ↑Fri Jan 07, 2022 11:58 amI'm not doing that at all.Fuzzy Necromancer wrote: ↑Fri Jan 07, 2022 6:10 amWhy are you so determined to minimize the threat post by white nationalists terrorist groups?clearspira wrote: ↑Mon Jan 03, 2022 5:07 pm I mean, yeah, that is pretty bad. But unpopular question time: Can you name a single crime that the KKK have committed recently? As in, are they actually a threat anymore or are they just a name?
If not then I ask you, what is the actual difference in 2022 between the KKK and the millions of on-line racists who congregate on social media?
"Believe me, there’s nothing so terrible that someone won’t support it."
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IS it really best to not call out racist, bigoted people for horrible things?
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I usually stand the fence on many issues. I will always lean towards one side or the other. It was always my thing to want to know why people act, want or say something.Fuzzy Necromancer wrote: ↑Sun Jan 09, 2022 2:36 amYes, you are. You dismiss, downplay, and handwave whenever there's a group with explicit white nationalist agendas at work. You did it with the terrorist coup attempt on January 6th and you're doing it with the KKK.clearspira wrote: ↑Fri Jan 07, 2022 11:58 amI'm not doing that at all.Fuzzy Necromancer wrote: ↑Fri Jan 07, 2022 6:10 amWhy are you so determined to minimize the threat post by white nationalists terrorist groups?clearspira wrote: ↑Mon Jan 03, 2022 5:07 pm I mean, yeah, that is pretty bad. But unpopular question time: Can you name a single crime that the KKK have committed recently? As in, are they actually a threat anymore or are they just a name?
If not then I ask you, what is the actual difference in 2022 between the KKK and the millions of on-line racists who congregate on social media?
Even then, I will never try to look for the up side in racism of any kind.
I got nothing to say here.
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Who's looking up for the side of racism? All I've seen is someone arguing that one particular obnoxious racist group isn't a particularly influential one in the grand scheme of things. That's not even defending them, let alone taking their side.McAvoy wrote: ↑Sun Jan 09, 2022 5:00 amI usually stand the fence on many issues. I will always lean towards one side or the other. It was always my thing to want to know why people act, want or say something.Fuzzy Necromancer wrote: ↑Sun Jan 09, 2022 2:36 amYes, you are. You dismiss, downplay, and handwave whenever there's a group with explicit white nationalist agendas at work. You did it with the terrorist coup attempt on January 6th and you're doing it with the KKK.clearspira wrote: ↑Fri Jan 07, 2022 11:58 amI'm not doing that at all.Fuzzy Necromancer wrote: ↑Fri Jan 07, 2022 6:10 amWhy are you so determined to minimize the threat post by white nationalists terrorist groups?clearspira wrote: ↑Mon Jan 03, 2022 5:07 pm I mean, yeah, that is pretty bad. But unpopular question time: Can you name a single crime that the KKK have committed recently? As in, are they actually a threat anymore or are they just a name?
If not then I ask you, what is the actual difference in 2022 between the KKK and the millions of on-line racists who congregate on social media?
Even then, I will never try to look for the up side in racism of any kind.
It's really rather sad when an argument that isn't even defending that group gets treated as if it is simply for not saying what people want to hear - they want the bogeyman attacked, and sure, it's not as if they don't deserve to get attacked, but treating anything short of that as support? Gee.
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Sure dude.Riedquat wrote: ↑Mon Jan 10, 2022 12:30 amWho's looking up for the side of racism? All I've seen is someone arguing that one particular obnoxious racist group isn't a particularly influential one in the grand scheme of things. That's not even defending them, let alone taking their side.McAvoy wrote: ↑Sun Jan 09, 2022 5:00 amI usually stand the fence on many issues. I will always lean towards one side or the other. It was always my thing to want to know why people act, want or say something.Fuzzy Necromancer wrote: ↑Sun Jan 09, 2022 2:36 amYes, you are. You dismiss, downplay, and handwave whenever there's a group with explicit white nationalist agendas at work. You did it with the terrorist coup attempt on January 6th and you're doing it with the KKK.clearspira wrote: ↑Fri Jan 07, 2022 11:58 amI'm not doing that at all.Fuzzy Necromancer wrote: ↑Fri Jan 07, 2022 6:10 amWhy are you so determined to minimize the threat post by white nationalists terrorist groups?clearspira wrote: ↑Mon Jan 03, 2022 5:07 pm I mean, yeah, that is pretty bad. But unpopular question time: Can you name a single crime that the KKK have committed recently? As in, are they actually a threat anymore or are they just a name?
If not then I ask you, what is the actual difference in 2022 between the KKK and the millions of on-line racists who congregate on social media?
Even then, I will never try to look for the up side in racism of any kind.
It's really rather sad when an argument that isn't even defending that group gets treated as if it is simply for not saying what people want to hear - they want the bogeyman attacked, and sure, it's not as if they don't deserve to get attacked, but treating anything short of that as support? Gee.
I got nothing to say here.