Dystopian Science Fiction only reinforces the real world Status Quo

For all topics regarding speculative fiction of every stripe. Otherwise known as the Geek Cave.
User avatar
hammerofglass
Captain
Posts: 2615
Joined: Sun Aug 29, 2021 3:17 pm
Location: Corning, NY

Re: Dystopian Science Fiction only reinforces the real world Status Quo

Post by hammerofglass »

Twitter is a private company with terms of service you have to agree to to use it. They are not part of the government so "protected speech" means bupkis.
...for space is wide, and good friends are too few.
User avatar
Frustration
Captain
Posts: 1607
Joined: Wed Sep 01, 2021 8:16 pm

Re: Dystopian Science Fiction only reinforces the real world Status Quo

Post by Frustration »

Oh, sure, if they chose to say nothing promoting Republicans (or Democrats) was allowed, that's just fine.

Until they ALSO claim that they're not responsible for promoting the ideas that are shared on their service.
"Freedom is the freedom to say that two plus two equals four. If that is granted, all else follows." -- George Orwell, 1984
User avatar
KuudereKun
Officer
Posts: 200
Joined: Tue Aug 20, 2024 10:39 pm
Contact:

Re: Dystopian Science Fiction only reinforces the real world Status Quo

Post by KuudereKun »

hammerofglass wrote: Mon Jul 10, 2023 5:34 pm Twitter is a private company with terms of service you have to agree to to use it. They are not part of the government so "protected speech" means bupkis.
This defense of Corporate Censorship needs to die, The Government needs to actively protect our rights, not just passively not violate them. That's what the Civil War was about.
User avatar
hammerofglass
Captain
Posts: 2615
Joined: Sun Aug 29, 2021 3:17 pm
Location: Corning, NY

Re: Dystopian Science Fiction only reinforces the real world Status Quo

Post by hammerofglass »

MithrandirOlorin wrote: Mon Jul 10, 2023 6:54 pm
hammerofglass wrote: Mon Jul 10, 2023 5:34 pm Twitter is a private company with terms of service you have to agree to to use it. They are not part of the government so "protected speech" means bupkis.
This defense of Corporate Censorship needs to die, The Government needs to actively protect our rights, not just passively not violate them. That's what the Civil War was about.
The corpos own the government so not sure how you think that would work in practice.
...for space is wide, and good friends are too few.
User avatar
CharlesPhipps
Captain
Posts: 4930
Joined: Wed Oct 04, 2017 8:06 pm

Re: Dystopian Science Fiction only reinforces the real world Status Quo

Post by CharlesPhipps »

Frustration wrote: Mon Jul 10, 2023 3:57 pmThat's incitement, which is already a crime. And can probably be charged as slander.
Kind of my point. Defining the absolutes of free speech there. Plenty of people are against slander and libel as concept.
Thebestoftherest
Captain
Posts: 3737
Joined: Thu Feb 28, 2019 2:22 pm

Re: Dystopian Science Fiction only reinforces the real world Status Quo

Post by Thebestoftherest »

MithrandirOlorin wrote: Mon Jul 10, 2023 6:54 pm
hammerofglass wrote: Mon Jul 10, 2023 5:34 pm Twitter is a private company with terms of service you have to agree to to use it. They are not part of the government so "protected speech" means bupkis.
This defense of Corporate Censorship needs to die, The Government needs to actively protect our rights, not just passively not violate them. That's what the Civil War was about.
No it wasn't it was about Slavery period.
User avatar
KuudereKun
Officer
Posts: 200
Joined: Tue Aug 20, 2024 10:39 pm
Contact:

Re: Dystopian Science Fiction only reinforces the real world Status Quo

Post by KuudereKun »

Thebestoftherest wrote: Mon Jul 10, 2023 11:28 pm
MithrandirOlorin wrote: Mon Jul 10, 2023 6:54 pm
hammerofglass wrote: Mon Jul 10, 2023 5:34 pm Twitter is a private company with terms of service you have to agree to to use it. They are not part of the government so "protected speech" means bupkis.
This defense of Corporate Censorship needs to die, The Government needs to actively protect our rights, not just passively not violate them. That's what the Civil War was about.
No it wasn't it was about Slavery period.
You say that as if what I said contradicts that.
User avatar
Madner Kami
Captain
Posts: 4046
Joined: Sun Mar 05, 2017 2:35 pm

Re: Dystopian Science Fiction only reinforces the real world Status Quo

Post by Madner Kami »

MithrandirOlorin wrote: Tue Jul 11, 2023 1:57 am
Thebestoftherest wrote: Mon Jul 10, 2023 11:28 pm
MithrandirOlorin wrote: Mon Jul 10, 2023 6:54 pm
hammerofglass wrote: Mon Jul 10, 2023 5:34 pm Twitter is a private company with terms of service you have to agree to to use it. They are not part of the government so "protected speech" means bupkis.
This defense of Corporate Censorship needs to die, The Government needs to actively protect our rights, not just passively not violate them. That's what the Civil War was about.
No it wasn't it was about Slavery period.
You say that as if what I said contradicts that.
It does, because you made an absolute and exclusive statement. And a wrong one on top of that. Extraordinary claims need extraordinary proof.
"If you get shot up by an A6M Reisen and your plane splits into pieces - does that mean it's divided by Zero?
- xoxSAUERKRAUTxox
User avatar
hammerofglass
Captain
Posts: 2615
Joined: Sun Aug 29, 2021 3:17 pm
Location: Corning, NY

Re: Dystopian Science Fiction only reinforces the real world Status Quo

Post by hammerofglass »

Thebestoftherest wrote: Mon Jul 10, 2023 11:28 pm
MithrandirOlorin wrote: Mon Jul 10, 2023 6:54 pm
hammerofglass wrote: Mon Jul 10, 2023 5:34 pm Twitter is a private company with terms of service you have to agree to to use it. They are not part of the government so "protected speech" means bupkis.
This defense of Corporate Censorship needs to die, The Government needs to actively protect our rights, not just passively not violate them. That's what the Civil War was about.
No it wasn't it was about Slavery period.
Well, that and preserving the Union.
...for space is wide, and good friends are too few.
User avatar
CharlesPhipps
Captain
Posts: 4930
Joined: Wed Oct 04, 2017 8:06 pm

Re: Dystopian Science Fiction only reinforces the real world Status Quo

Post by CharlesPhipps »

hammerofglass wrote: Tue Jul 11, 2023 8:39 am
Well, that and preserving the Union.
Yes, even the people that didn't care about slavery were like, "You don't let huge chunks of your country leave."
Post Reply