Slash Gallagher wrote: ↑Sat Jun 09, 2018 8:51 am
SuccubusYuri wrote: ↑Fri Jun 08, 2018 11:54 pm
If youtube has taught me anything it's that vocal Star Wars fanboys not only missed all the lessons of the films they profess to love, and that they just want remastered versions of the old films over and over again where nothing changes like the creepy serial killer bedroom in a Hitchcock film. xD
If that was the case KOTOR would never had been made or Republic Commando.
Or the majority of the EU.
Like any fan, we want the spirit of the franchise to endure and be respected. Most are mad at TLJ because it was a crap film, an awful second entry in the franchise, and it treated the remaining OT characters terribly. Look up Lukes clothes, posture, and make up from the End of TFA and then compare it to the first scene of TLJ. The cape is no longer white, and the main clothes are more grey than white. His makeup is a darker shade and his posture is more stooped. The discarding of all lighter and optimistic characteristics of the character was intentional, from the makeup to the clothes to the directing of his posture and mannerisms. Forget the OT, thats not even respecting the hopeful tone that TFA ended on. Rian Johnson calls it "Subversive." No Rian, the Adams family is Subversive. They care for eachother with all the love a typical family while using divergent social norms to advocate acceptance of differing outlooks on life while undermining the idea of conformity. Your film is flat out disrespectful and undermines all the positives a good Star Wars story should stand for.
And I'm all for strong female characters, I definitely feel the Last Jedi needed one or two of those. Holdo is what a mentally unbalanced militant feminist thinks a strong military leader should be. She reprimands Poe for being a maverick without sharing any battle strategy with him like a leader should. And in doing so causes more damage than good throughout the entire movie, and we are supposed to respect her because she sacrifices herself.
Rey... It was unfair to call her a Mary Sue, someone who is gifted with positive traits without earning them simply because the writer wills it, in TFA because her backstory was unexplored and it was definitely hinted that she had a type of amnesia.
But nope. She's the force's chosen one. That's why she has all those force powers without any training. Way to freaking remove any and all agency and self definition from a character that was already on shaky ground Johnson.
As for Leia... what exactly did she do in the film other than a Mary Poppins impression and check out Poes ass?
And in the Clone Wars, we saw Star Wars borrow plots from Sam Spayed, Godzilla, King Kong, Kagemusha, Seven Samurai, Apocalypse Now, A bridge too far, Night of the Living Dead, and others. And Those were some of the more respected episodes. Star Wars fans are open to a lot, just keep many of the themes in play and we're all good.
