Star Wars spin-offs put on hold due to disappointing Solo returns.

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SlackerinDeNile wrote: Thu Jun 21, 2018 10:56 pm I don't like having a Star Wars film or two come out every year, Disney made that work with the Marvel cinematic universe because there was much more to work with there.
I think this kinda sums up the problem, not with the franchise but with Disney's approach to it. They know the original trilogy was a huge hit and they seemed to be terrified of getting too far away. Everyone complained about the prequels being nothing like the originals and now Disney seems to be doing the opposite, making movies that are too much like the originals. The Force Awakens felt almost like a parody rather then a sequel.

So Fox was able to make the MCU work because they had more material? Batman and Spiderman are each a near media empire based on a handful of people living in one specific city and you are telling me Disney can't build a franchise when they have an entire galaxy and over a thousand generations of history? What more do you need?

Tolkien crafted an entire universe of stories with a single world to work with and Disney can't do it with a whole galaxy?
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phantom000 wrote: Fri Jun 29, 2018 5:48 am Tolkien crafted an entire universe of stories with a single world to work with and Disney can't do it with a whole galaxy?
Not as long as JJ Abrams thinks you can see distant star systems in the sky of another planet. That whole galaxy now seems to be smaller than Firefly's "solar system with several dozen worlds" things.

You're right though, Star Wars should be doing world-building if they want to sustain a constant flow of movies, but so far all they've been doing with the Star Wars Stories films is essentially referential fan-service. That kind of thing makes your universe smaller, not larger.
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Deledrius wrote: Fri Jun 29, 2018 6:15 am
phantom000 wrote: Fri Jun 29, 2018 5:48 am Tolkien crafted an entire universe of stories with a single world to work with and Disney can't do it with a whole galaxy?
You're right though, Star Wars should be doing world-building if they want to sustain a constant flow of movies, but so far all they've been doing with the Star Wars Stories films is essentially referential fan-service. That kind of thing makes your universe smaller, not larger.
Solo to me is like a better example of it then TFA. In TFA a lot of references seemed to be used more for jokes than anything else. With Solo they do the same thing buts its either to mark points in the story, like when Han gets his blaster, showing that he has now been accepted into the group, or Tobias wearing the same armor Lando used in ROTJ.

Still, as an experiment how about this. Get the people who make Rebels and Clone wars and ask them to work on a story for a animated movie, or possibly a trilogy of movies. It would be a distant prequal, set maybe 5,000 years before episode one which would allow the writers to basically do whatever they want. When the story is worked out hand it over to Pixar. Would that be so bad?
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The problem with Star Wars is that it doesn't really invite itself to a MCU-type franchise. Marvel, in both comics and movies, have a large emphasis on the individual characters. The Avengers film may unite those heroes for a tale, but they are still intriguing and capable of holding their own. Star Wars on the other hand has always seem to be about a singular story based around a single character. The Original trilogy had Luke, Prequel had Anakin, Sequel has Rey. Sure there are some interesting supporting characters, but the film is still based around that singular character and have little in terms of world-building outside the bubble of the main character. And that isn't a particularly ideal formula for making spin-off franchises.

So, my first tip would be to stop the prequel spinoffs. No one really asked for them and they are moreso just fan-service than actual worldbuilding. Want spin-offs? Explore a section of the Star Wars galaxy that hasn't been done before. As previous posters have said, the Star Wars universe offers huge potential, yet the writers keep wanting to stay in the small bubble of Anakin, Luke, and Rey. Do what the MCU did with Guardians of the Galaxy and do a story concurrent, but completely separate from the main trilogy. Secondly, don't insist on including the Force and Jedi and droids in every film. Do something unique, not everything has to be a battle between Sith and Jedi or Rebels and the Empire. To this I do have to give Solo credit, as it does do it own thing within the universe.

Just to note, I haven't seen Solo, so I'm just saying what I've read about it.
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PlasmaHam wrote: Wed Jul 04, 2018 12:40 am The problem with Star Wars is that it doesn't really invite itself to a MCU-type franchise. Marvel, in both comics and movies, have a large emphasis on the individual characters.
How hard would it be to tell good team stories? Rogue One is a sad team story and it kinda works.
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They should have just tried adapting Legends to the big screen.
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Yukaphile wrote: Fri Jul 06, 2018 1:52 am They should have just tried adapting Legends to the big screen.
Ok which ones?
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Dinner Squadron could have been fun.
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The Yuuzhan Vong War. The KOTOR games. The Bane novels. So many to choose from!
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Yukaphile wrote: Sat Jul 07, 2018 1:44 pm The Yuuzhan Vong War. The KOTOR games. The Bane novels. So many to choose from!
I wish they would keep the lore if nothing else. The EU had some of the more interesting alien races i have ever seen, like the Selonians.

When i saw them in SWTOR I had hoped that maybe we would get to see one in Solo.
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