Remember how the Mainstream Media said they won't be coming for Jefferson and Washington Next?

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Re: Remember how the Mainstream Media said they won't be coming for Jefferson and Washington Next?

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What's to comment on? We still have more dead protesters than demolished statues. Heck, seeing as we're still referring to people fatally plowing their cars into protesters as "dies after being struck by car", we're still putting more value on the bits of rock and bronze than human lives!! https://www.nytimes.com/2020/07/05/us/summer-taylor-seattle.html
So at this point pointing out all the "dead" statues is evidence of completely bankrupt priorities.
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Re: Remember how the Mainstream Media said they won't be coming for Jefferson and Washington Next?

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If you love these statues so much why haven't you livestreamed yourself having unprotected sex with them?
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Re: Remember how the Mainstream Media said they won't be coming for Jefferson and Washington Next?

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Fuzzy Necromancer wrote: Sun Jul 05, 2020 8:47 pm
phantom000 wrote: Sun Jul 05, 2020 6:41 pm
Antiboyscout wrote: Sun Jul 05, 2020 6:19 pm
phantom000 wrote: Sun Jul 05, 2020 6:14 pm
Antiboyscout wrote: Sun Jul 05, 2020 5:51 pm
BridgeConsoleMasher wrote: Sun Jul 05, 2020 4:03 pm At that point, you audit their moral calculus and/or compare it to their execution in manner. Ayn Rand's philosophy was shitzer.
I see you know nothing of Objectivism
Yep we are definitely off the rails and currently arching over the shark....
I keep linking new statues being defaced or destroyed, but nobody cares to comment any more. Probably do to the more left leaning members of the forum realizing it's not a good look, and no longer defending it.
I thought about making fliers that say something like;

"The following individuals are declared Unperson by the Ministry of Truth. To speak of even to acknowledge their existence is therefore a thoughtcrime and is to be reported to the Thought Police, immediately"

And then it lists everyone who's statue has been torn down by protestors or removed by the government.
They're already dead, dude.
“Every record has been destroyed or falsified, every book rewritten, every picture has been repainted, every statue and street building has been renamed, every date has been altered. And the process is continuing day by day and minute by minute. History has stopped. Nothing exists except an endless present in which the Party is always right.”

“Who controls the past controls the future. Who controls the present controls the past.”
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CmdrKing wrote: Sun Jul 05, 2020 10:20 pm What's to comment on? We still have more dead protesters than demolished statues. Heck, seeing as we're still referring to people fatally plowing their cars into protesters as "dies after being struck by car", we're still putting more value on the bits of rock and bronze than human lives!! https://www.nytimes.com/2020/07/05/us/summer-taylor-seattle.html
So at this point pointing out all the "dead" statues is evidence of completely bankrupt priorities.
ooohh swing and a miss. The driver of that car was black.
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Re: Remember how the Mainstream Media said they won't be coming for Jefferson and Washington Next?

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Antiboyscout wrote: Sun Jul 05, 2020 10:57 pm
Fuzzy Necromancer wrote: Sun Jul 05, 2020 8:47 pm
phantom000 wrote: Sun Jul 05, 2020 6:41 pm
Antiboyscout wrote: Sun Jul 05, 2020 6:19 pm
phantom000 wrote: Sun Jul 05, 2020 6:14 pm
Antiboyscout wrote: Sun Jul 05, 2020 5:51 pm
BridgeConsoleMasher wrote: Sun Jul 05, 2020 4:03 pm At that point, you audit their moral calculus and/or compare it to their execution in manner. Ayn Rand's philosophy was shitzer.
I see you know nothing of Objectivism
Yep we are definitely off the rails and currently arching over the shark....
I keep linking new statues being defaced or destroyed, but nobody cares to comment any more. Probably do to the more left leaning members of the forum realizing it's not a good look, and no longer defending it.
I thought about making fliers that say something like;

"The following individuals are declared Unperson by the Ministry of Truth. To speak of even to acknowledge their existence is therefore a thoughtcrime and is to be reported to the Thought Police, immediately"

And then it lists everyone who's statue has been torn down by protestors or removed by the government.
They're already dead, dude.
“Every record has been destroyed or falsified, every book rewritten, every picture has been repainted, every statue and street building has been renamed, every date has been altered. And the process is continuing day by day and minute by minute. History has stopped. Nothing exists except an endless present in which the Party is always right.”

“Who controls the past controls the future. Who controls the present controls the past.”
Let's be real, with how disseminated our media and knowledge is, both physically and ESPECIALLY digitally, THAT extensive of a control over EVERYTHING would take DECADES to cultivate, at least, and you'd never get ALL of it.

Plus every trick in BB's book is common knowledge now, only the proper idiots and layabouts wouldn't see it coming. That's why Kirkman set the Walking Dead in a universe where 'Living Dead' was never made, we all know how this works, practically from birth.
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ProfessorDetective wrote: Sun Jul 05, 2020 11:10 pm Let's be real, with how disseminated our media and knowledge is, both physically and ESPECIALLY digitally, THAT extensive of a control over EVERYTHING would take DECADES to cultivate, at least, and you'd never get ALL of it.

Plus every trick in BB's book is common knowledge now, only the proper idiots and layabouts wouldn't see it coming. That's why Kirkman set the Walking Dead in a universe where 'Living Dead' was never made, we all know how this works, practically from birth.
Have you seen a history class recently? At any level. Nothing but colonization (native genocide), revolution (and how it was only for white men), slavery, civil war, WW2, cold war (McCarthy was wrong plz don't look at all the soviet money in Hollywood), and that's it. Twisted and empty.

They have had decades. We are seeing the results of their efforts. The irony of people wearing Che Guavara T-shirts saying they don't care about the good these men did, only the bad, is not lost on me. The irony of The United States having to justify its own existence in its own universities but socialism and communism don't is not lost on me. Is it lost on you?
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Antiboyscout wrote: Sun Jul 05, 2020 11:23 pmHave you seen a history class recently? At any level. Nothing but colonization (native genocide), revolution (and how it was only for white men), slavery, civil war, WW2, cold war (McCarthy was wrong plz don't look at all the soviet money in Hollywood), and that's it. Twisted and empty.

They have had decades. We are seeing the results of their efforts. The irony of people wearing Che Guavara T-shirts saying they don't care about the good these men did, only the bad, is not lost on me. The irony of The United States having to justify its own existence in its own universities but socialism and communism don't is not lost on me. Is it lost on you?
Uh huh. So which grade are we talking about here? All 12? Come on, pick one. We'll go find a textbook from that grade level, and see if that's the only content in it.

Do you think this claim is going to stand up?
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Re: Remember how the Mainstream Media said they won't be coming for Jefferson and Washington Next?

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Fuzzy Necromancer wrote: Sun Jul 05, 2020 10:39 pm If you love these statues so much why haven't you livestreamed yourself having unprotected sex with them?
Maybe I have. Still doesn't change anything.
..What mirror universe?
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Re: Remember how the Mainstream Media said they won't be coming for Jefferson and Washington Next?

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GreyICE wrote: Sun Jul 05, 2020 11:25 pm
Antiboyscout wrote: Sun Jul 05, 2020 11:23 pmHave you seen a history class recently? At any level. Nothing but colonization (native genocide), revolution (and how it was only for white men), slavery, civil war, WW2, cold war (McCarthy was wrong plz don't look at all the soviet money in Hollywood), and that's it. Twisted and empty.

They have had decades. We are seeing the results of their efforts. The irony of people wearing Che Guavara T-shirts saying they don't care about the good these men did, only the bad, is not lost on me. The irony of The United States having to justify its own existence in its own universities but socialism and communism don't is not lost on me. Is it lost on you?
Uh huh. So which grade are we talking about here? All 12? Come on, pick one. We'll go find a textbook from that grade level, and see if that's the only content in it.

Do you think this claim is going to stand up?
All the way to college/uni
I was lucky, I actually read the textbook, beyond the prescribed pages the professor gave us. People are lazy and it's hard enough to get people out of their bubbles before professors started putting people in them on purpose.
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Re: Remember how the Mainstream Media said they won't be coming for Jefferson and Washington Next?

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Whatever narrative you endorse, we don't need statues to teach it. Teaching is done with books, documentaries, lectures, etc. It's amazing the technology we have today.
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