GOP first debate.

[Madner Kami]

Thank you! So it's a storm in a water-glas and she does more good than most people.

I admit though, I am surprised she has such a "low value" (in an asset-context).

[Thebestoftherest]

Hey if this goes on for one more page we might want to start a thread for it alone.

[Fuzzy Necromancer]

I would give up a kidney if it meant AOC got to be president. The worst Democrat canddiate is better than the best Republican candidate.

Honestly, I'm not far behind you, there. She just talks the most sense and seems the most willing to improve thing for EVERYONE, not just herself and/or her doners. That Maxwell Frost fellow is another promising one, but he's younger than I am.

I've never understood what's supposed to be controversial about AOC, everything I've heard her say is just common sense.

I don't know if you have this phrase in the US, but here we would call her a ''champagne socialist.'' Which is basically someone who preaches socialism whilst enjoying all of the trappings and benefits of capitalism.

A very good example would be the time that she wore a ''tax the rich'' dress to a $35,000 a head New York party.
https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/articl ... areer.html

Or how about the fact that she went to Boston university, one of the most expensive institutions in the country with a per year cost (adjusted for inflation) of $74,712. This despite the fact that the median household income in the US is $68,000. Sounds like she isn't being taxed enough, huh?https://www.pgurus.com/alexandria-ocasi ... -her-work/

Let me give you some advice: never trust someone who is trying to make you poorer whilst enjoying a life more expensive than yours.

Unlike most politicians, she actually worked for a living, and she's been relentlessly mocked for her bartending experience.
I don't know about you, but I don't make enough money for the initiatives she pushes to make me poorer. None of her tax plans are a threat to my income.

She's pushing for policies that would benefit me and wouldn't harm anyone I care about. That' why I want her.

[McAvoy]

OK. Here is something fun for someone to do.

Sorry, I'm taking away the fun. Per Politifact, she has assets in the range of $4000-$60000 and liabilities in the range of $15000-$50000. She also received an engagement ring worth ~$3000. Congresspeople have a pretax salary of $174000, which in New York works out to an after-tax pay of ~$113000 (This is probably complicated by taxable benefits as well as her partner's salary if they file jointly). Rent in the Bronx/Queens (her district covers those two Boroughs, and she doesn't have a house as an asset) is about $3000-$4000/month, or about a third to two fifths of her monthly take home. She also has to pay for somewhere to live in DC ($2000/month?), but let's say that whatever her partner makes evens that out. On her last financial disclosure, she was at $2000-$30000 in assets, so obviously she's managed to save some money over her first term.

Per Snopes, Keanu Reeves owns a house in the Hollywood Hills worth $4 million. Possibly a big chunk of that is appreciation in value, and he may have sold it in seven years, but it puts him way up there by comparison.

Thank you. Now there are rumors that somehow she got more money though backroom deals to where she has $27 million now. Believe that if you want. Believe in Santa if you want too. Gonna need proof if you want to bring it to the table though.

Anyway, ever since she was elected in she has been attacked for everything from being a former bartender to be basically being a woman to being young to being inexperienced.

Still wished she fist fucked MTG's face repeatedly a couple of years ago. But that's just me...

[ProfessorDetective]

OK. Here is something fun for someone to do.

Sorry, I'm taking away the fun. Per Politifact, she has assets in the range of $4000-$60000 and liabilities in the range of $15000-$50000. She also received an engagement ring worth ~$3000. Congresspeople have a pretax salary of $174000, which in New York works out to an after-tax pay of ~$113000 (This is probably complicated by taxable benefits as well as her partner's salary if they file jointly). Rent in the Bronx/Queens (her district covers those two Boroughs, and she doesn't have a house as an asset) is about $3000-$4000/month, or about a third to two fifths of her monthly take home. She also has to pay for somewhere to live in DC ($2000/month?), but let's say that whatever her partner makes evens that out. On her last financial disclosure, she was at $2000-$30000 in assets, so obviously she's managed to save some money over her first term.

Per Snopes, Keanu Reeves owns a house in the Hollywood Hills worth $4 million. Possibly a big chunk of that is appreciation in value, and he may have sold it in seven years, but it puts him way up there by comparison.

Thank you. Now there are rumors that somehow she got more money though backroom deals to where she has $27 million now. Believe that if you want. Believe in Santa if you want too. Gonna need proof if you want to bring it to the table though.

Anyway, ever since she was elected in she has been attacked for everything from being a former bartender to be basically being a woman to being young to being inexperienced.

Still wished she fist fucked MTG's face repeatedly a couple of years ago. But that's just me...

She got pushback for buying a NINTENDO SWITCH (plus Animal Crossing). The idea being that she was misappropriating state funds... by spending her EARNED House Rep. salary how she pleased. This was around the same time then President Trump was getting flak for taking near-weekly golfing trips, with full Secret Service detail, on the government's dime.

[ProfessorDetective]

I would give up a kidney if it meant AOC got to be president. The worst Democrat canddiate is better than the best Republican candidate.

Honestly, I'm not far behind you, there. She just talks the most sense and seems the most willing to improve thing for EVERYONE, not just herself and/or her doners. That Maxwell Frost fellow is another promising one, but he's younger than I am.

I've never understood what's supposed to be controversial about AOC, everything I've heard her say is just common sense.

I don't know if you have this phrase in the US, but here we would call her a ''champagne socialist.'' Which is basically someone who preaches socialism whilst enjoying all of the trappings and benefits of capitalism.

A very good example would be the time that she wore a ''tax the rich'' dress to a $35,000 a head New York party.
https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/articl ... areer.html

Or how about the fact that she went to Boston university, one of the most expensive institutions in the country with a per year cost (adjusted for inflation) of $74,712. This despite the fact that the median household income in the US is $68,000. Sounds like she isn't being taxed enough, huh?https://www.pgurus.com/alexandria-ocasi ... -her-work/

Let me give you some advice: never trust someone who is trying to make you poorer whilst enjoying a life more expensive than yours.

Unlike most politicians, she actually worked for a living, and she's been relentlessly mocked for her bartending experience.
I don't know about you, but I don't make enough money for the initiatives she pushes to make me poorer. None of her tax plans are a threat to my income.

She's pushing for policies that would benefit me and wouldn't harm anyone I care about. That' why I want her.

Exactly. Better than I was able to put it.

[BridgeConsoleMasher]

Saying tax the rich while being rich isn’t champagne socialism and that’s all that should be said.

I mean as per anything clearspira was specifically attempting to get at. Tax the rich isn’t an effort to make anyone not rich in the slightest, which is the only rationale for what was being said about her by him.

[BridgeConsoleMasher]

Interested to see if Trump's lead gets wider after this. It was an absolute circus and the only competent clown stayed home.

https://www.the-independent.com/news/wo ... 99003.html

Donald Trump has faced an estimated 4,000 legal cases throughout his professional career. And people laugh when Lex Luthor got elected president. ''How unrealistic!'' people cried.

IMO the resemblance between the circumstance of Trump and president Luthor is uncanny. From the conception of the birther movement to his libertarian outset... he administration was pure ego sauce.

[ProfessorDetective]

Interested to see if Trump's lead gets wider after this. It was an absolute circus and the only competent clown stayed home.

https://www.the-independent.com/news/wo ... 99003.html

Donald Trump has faced an estimated 4,000 legal cases throughout his professional career. And people laugh when Lex Luthor got elected president. ''How unrealistic!'' people cried.

IMO the resemblance between the circumstance of Trump and president Luthor is uncanny. From the conception of the birther movement to his libertarian outset... he administration was pure ego sauce.

Just replace Superman with... four-fifths of humanity...

And dump most of Luthor's SPECIAL stats into Luck and Charisma.

[BridgeConsoleMasher]

Interested to see if Trump's lead gets wider after this. It was an absolute circus and the only competent clown stayed home.

https://www.the-independent.com/news/wo ... 99003.html

Donald Trump has faced an estimated 4,000 legal cases throughout his professional career. And people laugh when Lex Luthor got elected president. ''How unrealistic!'' people cried.

IMO the resemblance between the circumstance of Trump and president Luthor is uncanny. From the conception of the birther movement to his libertarian outset... he administration was pure ego sauce.

Just replace Superman with... four-fifths of humanity...

And dump most of Luthor's SPECIAL stats into Luck and Charisma.

The Wonder Woman move had a more discrete and apparent depiction.